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(Date Posted:03/14/2009 14:13 PM)

Greed controls all of humanity. The only difference between the upper and lower class is power. The government and people with popularity and money have taken control of the country. Even if we have the right to vote, or anything else in the constitution doesn't mean that everything is gonna be ok.

We all go to school for the government. They want us to exceed and excell so they can use us.
We have a choice, either we can go along with their plans and live an o.k. life, or we can give up
and live in the poverty of America.

Not even middle class is middle class anymore. We're stuck living pay check to pay check, or paying taxes for causes that are irrelevent to ourselves.

Everything the government is spending today, is going to be given/taken back in the future, from taxes.
The unborn and the children that have no say are going to be the ones who take this hell.

Make up your mind people, open your eyes.

 Great job America.


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RE:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/14/2009 21:24 PM)

Well said and well put.

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Re:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 00:42 AM)

Maybe you should start posting a few of your own ideas. ;p

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RE:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 10:05 AM)

First I need to get my ideas together.

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Etece
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RE:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 12:04 PM)

I would have to disagree that the main difference in society is power, as the lower classes often actualy have more power than the higher, they just don't realise it. They are simply held at bay by the concept of privilefe, indeed the main unbalance within our society is this concept of 'privilege'. This matter of privilege is why, within a capitalist system, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer... In almost any circumstance those with privilege have the advantage over those with out, with no relation to individual skill and ability, and as the divides between the two grow the problem only gets greater. The divide creates inequality, which causes a breakdown in communication; for true communication can only occure between equals (according to the SNAFU Principal). And thus the schisms grow, the disunity intensifies and people become unable to identify with each other and as such communtiy breaks down. Whilst this noxious concept of privilege exists, society will always be lead by those on whom privilege is placed, whether it be due to money, popularity or blood.

As for taxation I have to agree with Nozick, all taxation is daylight robbery. But then all money is illusionary anyway, so can you really be said to steal an illusion?

Remember,

Property is Liberty
Property is Theft
Property is Impossible
Dillyboy001
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RE:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 12:33 PM)

What if the lower classes knew how much power they really had, what then? 

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Re:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 12:51 PM)

Well, if you're of the Marxist line of thought, revolution... Once they realized how much power they had they would have achieved his concept of class consciousness. However I disagree that such a sudden realisation could happen, the psychological nature of our society wouldn't allow for it, the process would have to be slow. During which time distinctions of class would hopefully also break down, thus making revolution unnescessary.
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Re:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 12:52 PM)

Hmmm... Seems I didn't stay signed in. My bad.
Tearful_Screams
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Re:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 13:17 PM)

No worries, go and edit the post.
Try that.

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RE:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 15:01 PM)

I like the idea of revolution. I don't think it could happen in American society, but maybe in others.

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Re:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 16:11 PM)

I have little taste for the idea of revolution my self, certainly not by violant insurrection, I don't believe it leads to any improvement in society. It certainly hasn't shown any great success throughout history, it either leads to uncontrolled terror or the implementation of a new form of social coercion, often worse than that which came before it. If an idea needs something as sudden as a revolution to establish itself then the society in which it exists is not ready for it, and forcing it will do nothing to change that. I personaly believe that the people have to change before the politics, not the other way round.
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Re:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 17:04 PM)

People here are changing, but not enough to recognize much.
I doubt that they'll ever be able to make an effect on the politics.

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Re:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 17:37 PM)

Same here, but it can be seen if you look closely.

Such changes in the entire social consciousness take time, but things move a lot faster these days than they did a thousand years ago. Every major change in history has taken atleast a generation to become accepted by the majority, and only then does it become functional. This has applied to religion, science and many other areas, including politics. Think how long it took the majority of the world to move from feudalism to constitutional monarchy, and from constitutional monarchy to the beginnings of democracy. The shift in political thought will continue to move, it just takes time. I consider our job to facilitate this shift, rather than to force ideas onto other people... Cos' hell, we could very well be wrong!

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Re:Hell in the Future
(Date Posted:03/15/2009 17:45 PM)

Etece, check your messages. It appears at the top of the page.
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